tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post91171477218252702..comments2024-03-04T04:00:56.272+13:00Comments on DMP - Dave's Mechanical Pencils: PaperMate Biodegradable Mechanical Pencil ReviewKiwi-dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04092604091185842213noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-66562451167322054842010-09-15T09:46:50.702+12:002010-09-15T09:46:50.702+12:00@Sapphire: That's a good excuse. I'll ha...@Sapphire: That's a good excuse. I'll have to remember that one :)PointFourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07167502477180002343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-21854995526129101662010-09-14T20:48:14.329+12:002010-09-14T20:48:14.329+12:00There are others here with a better claim to that ...There are others here with a better claim to that title.<br />My excuse is that you need a lot of different grades and sizes of lead for different papers and purposes.Michael J Corryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04780267551120349263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-76499949750438967192010-09-14T08:17:45.351+12:002010-09-14T08:17:45.351+12:00@Peter Hosey: I've fairly heavily used Pilot ...@Peter Hosey: I've fairly heavily used Pilot SuperGrip, still my favourite pencil - that's some comfession to make here - the shaker version with similar barrel, and a bottom-of-the-range Zebra that Zebra don't make any more, probably their equivalent of a Pentel Sharplet. Plastic pocket clips are *very* vulnerable, but in all cases the mechanism has worked well over repeated PointFourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07167502477180002343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-78277028661284653072010-09-13T17:33:25.092+12:002010-09-13T17:33:25.092+12:00I saw these pencils in this years tokyo stationery...I saw these pencils in this years tokyo stationery fair. They explained it very nicely.<br />very impressed.<br /><br />Raul<br />http://asiantreasurehunt.blogspot.com/Asian treasure Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03846527056741600903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-91462939485017117062010-07-27T06:47:19.600+12:002010-07-27T06:47:19.600+12:00Thanks for your comments Lexx - don't be conce...Thanks for your comments Lexx - don't be concerned about your English.Kiwi-dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04092604091185842213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-892778112986870042010-07-27T04:00:35.286+12:002010-07-27T04:00:35.286+12:00I also apologize for my poor english. ;xI also apologize for my poor english. ;xLexxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08194313859863125984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-47331468920546015162010-07-27T03:47:52.648+12:002010-07-27T03:47:52.648+12:00This comment has been removed by the author.Lexxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08194313859863125984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-2226896779178332442010-07-27T03:46:47.708+12:002010-07-27T03:46:47.708+12:00I actually dun see any problem in making cheap eco...I actually dun see any problem in making cheap eco-friendly mechanical pencils, because that type are usually disposable. But that still produce high quality mechanical pencils that are built-to-last. This type of market cannot be affected because there are people who need this kind of quality such as for use in architecture or engineering or even to collect. There is also a limit on how Lexxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08194313859863125984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-64711889946075454602010-07-25T02:07:04.600+12:002010-07-25T02:07:04.600+12:00@Peter Hosey:
Yes, I have had a Pentel Sharp becom...@Peter Hosey:<br />Yes, I have had a Pentel Sharp become completely unusable-bu that was probably just a lemon. I have over a dozen other kinds of Pentel pencils and they all work beautifully.Vikramnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-68678781657048782642010-07-23T08:52:57.897+12:002010-07-23T08:52:57.897+12:00Indeed! I remember a longer discussion over at pen...Indeed! I remember a longer discussion over at pencil talk long ago about a similar eco - pencil – concept. The impact of such things is really unpredictable – so I’ll just stick to, that I find it a gimmick – but there’s of course nothing wrong with biodegradability as such.<br />Regards<br />HenrikHenrikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16539087675373785220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-25042318831286415742010-07-23T07:17:50.039+12:002010-07-23T07:17:50.039+12:00No question about the biodegradability of wooden p...No question about the biodegradability of wooden pencils (excl lead and paint) but many questions re their eco-credentials, just like with MP's.Kiwi-dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04092604091185842213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-67705346857991126852010-07-22T23:44:55.653+12:002010-07-22T23:44:55.653+12:00Good point sapphire! If we are serious about it – ...Good point sapphire! If we are serious about it – we use wooden pencils. I guess it is a bit hard to take this seriously if you collect pencils – as the idea is “counter- collective” :-) we want to keep our pencils and do not want them to disintegrate over time. <br />What seems wrong here IMHO is the disposable concept. <br />Regards<br />HenrikHenrikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16539087675373785220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-9064255671367658742010-07-21T07:45:37.328+12:002010-07-21T07:45:37.328+12:00I've just realised. I already have loads of b...I've just realised. I already have loads of biodegradable pencils - all those wooden ones!Michael J Corryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04780267551120349263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-63912417418584551202010-07-21T07:09:39.354+12:002010-07-21T07:09:39.354+12:00Jambe - I believe your comment about requiring con...Jambe - I believe your comment about requiring controlled breakdown environment is true of many biodegradable products, but not this particular one. The Paper Mate website states, "The biodegradable components in Paper Mate Biodegradable products are intended to be disposed of in soil or home compost", and "Majority of components biodegrade in soil or home compost in about a year.&Kiwi-dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04092604091185842213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-423313456288111632010-07-21T06:51:44.633+12:002010-07-21T06:51:44.633+12:00Dear Jeremy,
For almost a year now I have been ...Dear Jeremy, <br /><br /><br />For almost a year now I have been searching for a Staedtler Micromatic 777 75. Yea, thats right, that 24k plated MP pencil. So far, almost everyone I have asked says that they're out of stock. Time and time again I have been met with frustration. I know that you have a lot of contacts and I was wondering if you could help me out here. Could you help me find thisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-68150099223465012942010-07-21T04:46:42.963+12:002010-07-21T04:46:42.963+12:00That it would be nice for Papermate to make their ...That it would be nice for Papermate to make their Sharpwriters biodegradable is irrelevant to whether this biodegradable mechanical pencil is a good idea. It IS a good idea. ANYTHING biodegradable disposable is better than one that isn't, and yes, these cheap plastic pencils ARE disposable, regardless of whether they're mechanical or not.<br /><br />Seriously, you lot would sooner Jambehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06373677455129413039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-68457993402829657752010-07-21T03:32:03.503+12:002010-07-21T03:32:03.503+12:00This pencil is fun – the idea seems to be: when t...This pencil is fun – the idea seems to be: when the pencil no longer works, you take it apart and bury the housing in the garden and the rest goes in the bin? It will make me feel sooo much more responsible. As Papermate states: “Every little bit helps”.<br />It would almost be treason not to do my bit.<br /><br />But, the reverse idea, that the innards were biodegradable, and the housing not Henrikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16539087675373785220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-76529443122676296972010-07-20T22:09:49.505+12:002010-07-20T22:09:49.505+12:00I only picked the YOL because it was the next post...I only picked the YOL because it was the next post back.<br /><br />I have a Parker that I've been using since 1969 and a rotring that goes back nearly as far. The rotring is a cheap refillable but still designed to last more than a couple of refills.<br /><br />Maybe we collectors are the villains here - why does any of us need so many pencils? (My wife told me to say that. I'd like toMichael J Corryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04780267551120349263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-33458337527180874112010-07-20T19:27:03.214+12:002010-07-20T19:27:03.214+12:00This pencil certainly has alot to say about the co...This pencil certainly has alot to say about the condition of the planet....<br /><br />Pass this relic onto your grandkids =)Time Wasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12033204571074608347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-42089914240019464182010-07-20T17:04:35.745+12:002010-07-20T17:04:35.745+12:00I deliberately stayed away from any assessment of ...I deliberately stayed away from any assessment of the merits or otherwise of the eco-credentials of this and other pencils. I think it's just too complex and/or beyond us with the limited information we have available.<br /><br />Right back to square one though, Sapphire's comment, I am tempted to think that something like a YOL has a very small whole-of life-cycle eco-footprint that Kiwi-dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04092604091185842213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-36695577490909704882010-07-20T15:45:24.253+12:002010-07-20T15:45:24.253+12:00Anonymous: Fair point about no proof of reduced lo...Anonymous: Fair point about no proof of reduced longevity.<br /><br />Biodegradability in and of itself isn't a bad thing. I'd welcome it if this were a change Papermate (or Sanford more broadly) were making across all their pens and pencils. As it is, though, it seems just a gimmick. Why is this pencil biodegradable and not all their actual disposables? The only reason I can think of is Peter Hoseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08581296527663635602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-42134745605349548142010-07-20T15:30:25.303+12:002010-07-20T15:30:25.303+12:00I have the biodegradable pen and i love it! It act...I have the biodegradable pen and i love it! It actually has a really nice grip and writes pretty well for a cheap pen. I was disappointed that the entire thing wasn't biodegradable but i guess it makes sense that certain parts can't be made that wayShoplethttp://blog.shoplet.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-64142225497473579022010-07-20T14:23:43.716+12:002010-07-20T14:23:43.716+12:00IMO, biodegradability is an added bonus. There is ...IMO, biodegradability is an added bonus. There is no proof yet that it's biodegradability affects it's longevity (barring it's longevity as an item in your garden). As time goes on companies and scientists will learn more and more things about these new materials used to make these pencils, and people will start burying items in the land instead of throwing them on top of the land, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-86963765101765280302010-07-20T12:47:52.644+12:002010-07-20T12:47:52.644+12:00Anonymous: It's pointless to optimize a refill...Anonymous: It's pointless to optimize a refillable's construction for disposal. That tells me that it's not going to last—that I will throw it away. If I wanted to throw away my pencil, I'd buy a throwaway pencil.<br /><br />Question for Dave and for other readers: Have you had inexpensive plastic refillable pencils—not no-names and disposables, but Pentel e-Clic and similar Peter Hoseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08581296527663635602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21675608.post-26086368752761255162010-07-20T12:45:19.917+12:002010-07-20T12:45:19.917+12:00This comment has been removed by the author.Peter Hoseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08581296527663635602noreply@blogger.com